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#265532 - 05/30/09 12:41 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Bachus Offline
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The only thing an audya needs is a good musician
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#265533 - 05/30/09 01:07 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
ccantanapoli Offline
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Registered: 06/12/07
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I agree, Bachus.
WHEN YOU ARE out there do you really think the people are listening to the loops and the bells? They listen to the words and look at the performers. Very few musicians will carefully listen...and they will not leave you a tip...

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#265534 - 05/30/09 01:12 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14294
Loc: NW Florida
Quote:
Originally posted by Bachus:
The only thing an audya needs is a good musician


A rich one, at that!

Just curious, but what arranger DOESN'T need a good musician?

Me, I'd have thought that the better the musician, the MORE he (or she!) would need guitar chords that didn't change dramatically when you used dim/aug/sus chords (presumably the poor musician doesn't even play these chords? ). I'd have thought the better musician would be MORE likely to want to be able to customize his (or her!) styles. And the better the musician, the more likely they would want to use a sampler...

My mistake. I must suck...

[This message has been edited by Diki (edited 05-30-2009).]
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#265535 - 05/30/09 02:13 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Gunnar Jonny Offline
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Registered: 04/01/01
Posts: 4394
Loc: Norway
Quote:
Originally posted by Bachus:
The only thing an audya needs is a good musician


Really?
To me it looks like what Audya need is more customers.
Then the customers can learn to be good musicians. (Hopefully)

GJ
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#265536 - 05/30/09 06:16 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Irishacts Offline
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Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1631
Loc: Ireland
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James, what is the #1 reason folks don't buy the Audya? Price? Sound? Styles? I doubt it is the lack of editing (few use that much, anyway )


The price is the problem, but not because they can't afford it. The problems is in trying to give them justification for how much this costs and why it costs 1400 Euro more than a Tyros 3 or a Pa2X which both have full editing features.

I will sell it, but not to a Yamaha, Roland or a KORG user. Only an existing KETRON user looking to upgrade could be convinced to buy into this.

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#265537 - 05/30/09 06:26 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Irishacts Offline
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Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1631
Loc: Ireland
Quote:
Originally posted by Bachus:
The only thing an audya needs is a good musician


If that where true, then I'd be able to sell 100 of these keyboards to people like you.

Sadly it's not that way though. When it lacks the core basic editing functions there's little chance in convincing someone to buy this keyboard.

It costs 1400 Euro MORE than a Pa2X or a Tyros 3 in my Country.

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#265538 - 05/30/09 06:30 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
Dont worry in a year or so...you'll probably pick up an audya for half of what is is now the market will dictate it's cost..

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#265539 - 05/30/09 07:13 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Irishacts Offline
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Registered: 11/18/01
Posts: 1631
Loc: Ireland
I hope it doesn't sink Ketron in the process.

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#265540 - 05/30/09 07:43 AM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Dnj Offline
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Registered: 09/21/00
Posts: 43703
James I don't think so, Ketron has a great product. Maybe they don't have the resources the big boys have but they are still contenders for sure with a dedicated following world wide. I hope they succeed as some of their features are really unique and definitly have a place in the arranger KB music world. Not everyone can afford a Ferrari, but they still sell them around the world..

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#265541 - 05/30/09 04:01 PM Re: AUDYA >>> what it REALLY needs is ....
Diki Offline


Registered: 04/25/05
Posts: 14294
Loc: NW Florida
A Ferrari WORKS. It is BETTER, faster, stops quicker than just about anything. It EARNS its' price premium.

The Audya, OTOH, has some fundamental things missing at this point, and other fundamental things that work half-assed compared to how they should. And then it has some fundamental things that are advanced. But it has by no means the all around dominance that Ferrari holds in the market place at it's particular product.

The Audya is a Ferrari with a speed governor to stop it going faster than your family sedan. At full Ferrari price.
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